No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, options?

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No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, options?

Postby tolkienscholars » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:19 pm

I can access irc.geekshed.net (in it's many forms) with the same laptop from all three of my home networks, but when I switch to using verizon wireless for my mobile connection (which is where I spend the majority of my time online), I can connect to other irc servers (using xchat or web client, same results) such as freenode, and several others including my own, but I get nothing but time outs trying to connect to irc.geekshed.net (and the variants that leads to).

Suggestions?
Using xchat:

Looking up irc.geekshed.net
* Connecting to irc.geekshed.net (71.19.150.142) port 6667...
* Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
Cycling to next server in GeekShed...
* Disconnected ().
* Looking up irc.geekshed.net
* Connecting to irc.geekshed.net (71.19.150.142) port 6667...
* Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
Cycling to next server in GeekShed...
* Disconnected ().
* Looking up irc.geekshed.net
* Connecting to irc.geekshed.net (122.248.218.2) port 6667...
* Stopped previous connection attempt (pid=10415)
* Looking up irc.geekshed.net
* Connecting to irc.geekshed.net (122.248.218.2) port 9999...
* Stopped previous connection attempt (pid=10630)
* Looking up irc.geekshed.net
* Connecting to irc.geekshed.net (109.74.200.40) port 9999...

Same results using AndChat IRC directly on the phone (instead of using mobile hotspot mode).

traceroute irc.geekshed.net
traceroute to irc.geekshed.net (122.248.218.2), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP
1 192.168.42.1 (192.168.42.1) 1.131 ms 0.963 ms 1.070 ms
2 * * *
3 66.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.66) 60.534 ms 59.714 ms 61.225 ms
4 34.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.34) 71.471 ms 70.174 ms 69.463 ms
5 129.sub-66-174-24.myvzw.com (66.174.24.129) 58.896 ms 58.276 ms 56.858 ms
6 TenGigE0-0-1-0.GW4.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.183.193) 70.470 ms 70.530 ms 68.556 ms
7 0.ge-2-2-0.XT4.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.125) 66.712 ms 65.170 ms 63.793 ms
8 0.so-6-1-0.XL4.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.229) 62.683 ms 65.910 ms 62.931 ms
9 0.ae4.BR3.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.246) 74.197 ms 73.294 ms 72.832 ms
10 ix-0-0-1-0.tcore1.00S-Seattle.as6453.net (64.86.123.45) 69.916 ms 68.985 ms 68.038 ms
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 if-6-2.tcore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net (180.87.12.109) 246.497 ms 275.363 ms 253.106 ms
14 180.87.12.26 (180.87.12.26) 303.004 ms 303.358 ms 300.911 ms
15 * * *
16 203.83.223.74 (203.83.223.74) 296.916 ms 296.118 ms 294.380 ms
17 ec2-175-41-128-234.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com (175.41.128.234) 261.266 ms 266.059 ms 258.580 ms
18 * * *
19 ec2-122-248-218-2.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com (122.248.218.2) 274.345 ms 272.505 ms 273.610 ms
# traceroute irc.geekshed.net
traceroute to irc.geekshed.net (122.248.218.2), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP
1 192.168.42.1 (192.168.42.1) 8.159 ms 8.168 ms 7.275 ms
2 * * *
3 66.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.66) 169.895 ms 45.595 ms 61.602 ms
4 34.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.34) 62.255 ms 60.932 ms 59.443 ms
5 129.sub-66-174-24.myvzw.com (66.174.24.129) 57.674 ms 56.976 ms 55.327 ms
6 TenGigE0-0-1-0.GW4.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.183.193) 72.733 ms 73.210 ms 71.940 ms
7 0.ge-2-2-0.XT4.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.125) 70.613 ms 69.083 ms 67.572 ms
8 0.so-6-1-0.XL4.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.229) 178.437 ms 697.907 ms 709.119 ms
9 0.ae4.BR3.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.246) 724.426 ms 723.474 ms 721.817 ms
10 ix-0-0-1-0.tcore1.00S-Seattle.as6453.net (64.86.123.45) 720.111 ms 719.186 ms 718.236 ms
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 if-6-2.tcore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net (180.87.12.109) 880.632 ms 889.885 ms 886.980 ms
14 180.87.12.26 (180.87.12.26) 249.942 ms 253.753 ms 244.315 ms
15 * * *
16 203.83.223.74 (203.83.223.74) 252.904 ms 260.768 ms 248.768 ms
17 ec2-175-41-128-234.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com (175.41.128.234) 262.235 ms 254.966 ms 253.551 ms
18 * * *
19 * ec2-122-248-218-2.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com (122.248.218.2) 261.832 ms 262.634 ms

traceroute -T irc.geekshed.net -p 6667
traceroute to irc.geekshed.net (122.248.218.2), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using TCP
1 192.168.42.1 (192.168.42.1) 1.574 ms 200.002 ms 1.537 ms
2 * * *
3 66.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.66) 47.310 ms 47.637 ms 56.234 ms
4 * * *
5 129.sub-66-174-24.myvzw.com (66.174.24.129) 61.398 ms 60.977 ms 58.624 ms
6 TenGigE0-0-1-0.GW4.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.183.193) 74.202 ms 72.541 ms 71.150 ms
7 0.ge-2-2-0.XT4.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.125) 68.602 ms 68.019 ms 67.343 ms
8 0.so-6-1-0.XL4.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.104.229) 485.178 ms 484.301 ms 483.596 ms
9 0.ae4.BR3.SEA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.106.246) 499.643 ms 496.492 ms 494.272 ms
10 ix-0-0-1-0.tcore1.00S-Seattle.as6453.net (64.86.123.45) 477.518 ms 473.962 ms 473.378 ms
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 if-6-2.tcore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net (180.87.12.109) 637.689 ms 637.620 ms 635.928 ms
14 180.87.12.26 (180.87.12.26) 270.677 ms 269.741 ms 268.967 ms
15 * * *
16 203.83.223.74 (203.83.223.74) 260.076 ms 273.392 ms 265.203 ms
17 ec2-175-41-128-234.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com (175.41.128.234) 249.418 ms 258.199 ms 263.626 ms
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * * *
23 * * *
24 * * *
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *


# telnet irc.geekshed.net 6667
Trying 122.248.218.2...Connection timed out

Just times out with no connection.
Enabling SSL still doesn't connect either.


Suggestions please?
Thanks!
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby Phil » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:14 am

Try connecting directly to 50.56.86.206 or jolly.geekshed.net.
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby tolkienscholars » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:11 pm

Tried 50.56.86.206, but same result. Still no joy.
Same result with both port 6667 and port 9999 / ssl
Any other suggestions?


* Looking up 50.56.86.206
* Connecting to 50.56.86.206 (50.56.86.206) port 6667...
* Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out

traceroute 50.56.86.206
traceroute to 50.56.86.206 (50.56.86.206), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP
1 192.168.42.1 (192.168.42.1) 1.183 ms 1.007 ms 1.798 ms
2 * * *
3 66.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.66) 42.244 ms 48.084 ms 48.344 ms
4 34.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.34) 59.410 ms 58.628 ms 57.629 ms
5 129.sub-66-174-24.myvzw.com (66.174.24.129) 55.078 ms 54.013 ms 52.301 ms
6 TenGigE0-0-1-0.GW4.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.183.193) 85.656 ms 84.322 ms 83.639 ms
7 0.ge-2-1-0.XT3.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.21) 54.287 ms 58.133 ms 54.910 ms
8 0.so-5-2-0.XL3.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.6) 87.471 ms 90.723 ms 89.063 ms
9 POS6-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.241) 81.680 ms POS4-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.49.169) 80.225 ms POS6-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.241) 79.660 ms
10 teliasonera-test-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.215.70) 77.519 ms 75.856 ms 77.945 ms
11 chi-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.24) 129.673 ms 128.124 ms 126.667 ms
12 rackspace-ic-134354-chi-bb1.c.telia.net (80.239.160.50) 115.890 ms 114.078 ms 115.479 ms
13 coreb.ord1.rackspace.net (184.106.126.142) 124.427 ms corea.ord1.rackspace.net (184.106.126.140) 118.558 ms 117.601 ms
14 core1-CoreA.ord1.rackspace.net (184.106.126.125) 118.946 ms 126.639 ms 125.886 ms
15 173.203.0.181 (173.203.0.181) 135.426 ms 134.790 ms 133.384 ms
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * * *
23 * * *
24 * * *
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *





Port specific to 6667
traceroute -T 50.56.86.206 -p 6667
traceroute to 50.56.86.206 (50.56.86.206), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using TCP
1 192.168.42.1 (192.168.42.1) 0.889 ms 0.967 ms 0.978 ms
2 * * *
3 66.sub-69-83-159.myvzw.com (69.83.159.66) 40.680 ms 54.804 ms 55.014 ms
4 * * *
5 129.sub-66-174-24.myvzw.com (66.174.24.129) 53.118 ms 52.583 ms 51.142 ms
6 TenGigE0-0-1-0.GW4.POR3.ALTER.NET (157.130.183.193) 67.090 ms 66.487 ms 64.568 ms
7 0.ge-2-1-0.XT3.POR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.105.21) 53.105 ms 53.819 ms 57.430 ms
8 0.so-5-2-0.XL3.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.48.6) 418.873 ms 417.785 ms 416.696 ms
9 POS4-0-0.GW4.SJC7.ALTER.NET (152.63.49.169) 415.595 ms 414.506 ms 413.446 ms
10 teliasonera-test-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.215.70) 268.059 ms 147.613 ms 75.500 ms
11 chi-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.80.24) 143.250 ms 142.045 ms 258.511 ms
12 rackspace-ic-134354-chi-bb1.c.telia.net (80.239.160.50) 129.770 ms 129.153 ms 127.679 ms
13 * * *
14 * * *
15 173.203.0.181 (173.203.0.181) 247.465 ms 246.375 ms 245.222 ms
16 * * *
17 * * *
18 * * *
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * * *
23 * * *
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30 * * *
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby tengrrl » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:32 pm

I cannot connect to Geekshed using my phone either. Googling suggests that Verizon is blocking something. This is an older thread: https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/127391 but you'll find similar if you look around.

The test seems to be to check if you can connect via wifi. Most folks (including me) can connect via wifi but not via the Verizon data stream. You might try contacting Verizon. Maybe they can provide some tips.
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby tolkienscholars » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:41 pm

Yes,when I began this thread I made it clear I could connect via other services (my 3 different DSL lines, both ethernet and wifi), as well as other locations.
It is only when I connect via Verizon using EITHER my phone or the shared hotspot mode of the phone (wifi through verizon) that I can no longer connect.
Why is verizon blocking geekshed but allowing many other irc networks like Freenode, etc. to work? Did the geekshed folks do something in appropriate to get banned?

So I guess I will have to try to argue with Verizon to get this ban removed (fat chance they will?)?

Thanks.
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby tolkienscholars » Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:46 pm

I guess the only option since I have no trouble accessing my own irc servers, would be to setup a (secured) bounce relay between my server to the geekshed servers as a work around. Assuming geekshed doesn't end up banning that connection.
I'll still complain to Verizon about them blocking geekshed's servers, so it is at least on the record, but a shame they are being blocked.
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby tolkienscholars » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:39 pm

On the phone now with verizon Internet support department. He verified he is unable to get to the irc.geekshed.net servers from his work.
He is researching to find out if there is some kind of official block, or what is going on.
Will post more information when available.

Here is earlier dialog in the geekshed.net #help IRC:

<rpgresearch> Wondering if folks knew that Verizon is blocking the Geekshed.net IRC servers?
<myrti> how is it blocking them?
<rpgresearch> When using verizon wireless, cannot access any geekshed.net servers. I can access other IRC such as my own IRC servers, and theonering's, and some others. But not the geekshed.net irc servers, Tried different ones geographically, also by IP, no luck.

<myrti> what happens when you try to access them?
<rpgresearch> times out. Let me find my earlier posts about this, I did detailed traceroutes etc. I am on home network now, otherwise I couldn't communicate here.
<myrti> have you tried changing dns-servers?
<myrti> might just be that they're servers are mucking up the dns-resolution
<CCMike> what network were you on?? if your home now?
<rpgresearch> I also tested directly with IP addresses too instead of name resolve (of course if the IRC servers only accept hostnames and not IP, maybe that wouldn't work anyway)? I can try that to see. I'm trying to find my test logs....
<CCMike> what network were you on?? if your home now?
<rpgresearch> Here yougo: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1923
<rpgresearch> I am on Century Link DSL now (I have two networks here). I use my Verizon wireless when out and about (which is about 80% of the time).
* BlackIce has quit (Connection reset by peer)
<rpgresearch> With the exact same laptop, I have no trouble when using other networks, just can't connect when using Verizon Wireless. I posted details in that forum posting.
* BlackIce (~TheGamerT@silver.supporter.geekshed.net) has joined #help
<CCMike> it's only on your end
<rpgresearch> let me know if any other testing information needed. I could boot up another laptop using home network to communicate here,and then test with this one on the verizon wireless to provide any other additional information.
<CCMike> i see lots of connections from verizon
<CCMike> all day long
<rpgresearch> CCMike, verizon wireless? Or just Verizon?
<rpgresearch> CCMike, then suggestions how to resolve if Verizon isn't blacklisting?
<rpgresearch> this happens on multiple laptops, with Windows, Linux and Mac OS X
<CCMike> the wireless is on your router, the isp is verison
<rpgresearch> Well, okay, if you guys aren't aware of any issues, I'll give Verizon a call and see what they have to say, just checking if known issue.
<rpgresearch> My wireless is my cellphone in Hotspot mode
<CCMike> they only provide the connection to your router
<rpgresearch> I'm well aware of the distinction. Even connecting directly with my cell phone using android irc client has same result.
<rpgresearch> (timeout)
<rpgresearch> I'll give Verizon a call and see what they have to say then.

<rpgresearch> verizon support now looking at the forum posting. he just verified he is unable to get to the irc.geekshed.net servers as well. He is now trying to find out if there is an actual block.
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby tolkienscholars » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:00 am

Verizon support confirms that they are blocking all the geekshed.net IRC servers for their mobile customers. He does not have information on WHY they are all blacklsted. He is filing a trouble ticket to find out why it has been blacklisted.

He says it will take a few days for them to get back to me on this. I'll post when find out more information.

But typically they would blacklist because of complaints about abuse from the network.

Simultaneously I have no trouble connecting to irc.freenode.net, chat.freenode.net, irc.merp.com and irc.theonering.net.
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Re: No connect w/ verizon wireless to irc.geekshed.net, opti

Postby Techgeek564 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:03 am

Did you get the issue solved? I'd like to be able to connect to the service as well but can't. I'm not looking to get a contract account just to access irc or use a lesser available network as i'm everywhere and require connection which both Verizon and ATT offers.
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